Open carrying a rifle

[4theConstitution]

Hello everyone, I am here to ask if in the state of Pennsylvania, am I allowed to open carry an assault rifle such as a semi-automatic AR-15 Considering I am 18 years of age and without anything prohibiting me from owning a firearm.

Also I have read on this website that persons 18 years of age and older whom are not prohibited by law from owning firearms may openly carry a handgun in plain sight with no license except in vehicles. I am confused about this because I thought that in all 50 states, you must be atleast 21 years of age to own a handgun, can someone explain this better to me. Thank you.

[jahwarrior72]

no, you cannot carry an assault rifle. someone else will explain why.

[shooter357]

You have to be at least 18 years of age to own a handgun. Lets say you are 18 and your Grandfather or Father decided that you are responsible enough to own a gun and got you one. Once they hand it to you, you are now the owner of said piece and can now walk around OC.

Quote:§6110.1. Possession of Firearm By Minor.

(a) Firearm.—Except as provided in subsection (b), a person under 18 years of age shall not possess or transport a firearm anywhere in this Commonwealth.

Quote:§6111. Sale or transfer of firearms.

(a) Time and manner of delivery.--



(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), no seller shall deliver a firearm to the purchaser or transferee thereof until 48 hours shall have elapsed from the time of the application for the purchase thereof, and, when delivered, the firearm shall be securely wrapped and shall be unloaded.







(2) Thirty days after publication in the Pennsylvania Bulletin that the Instantaneous Criminal History Records Check System has been established in accordance with the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (Public Law 103- 159, 18 U.S.C. § 921 et seq.), no seller shall deliver a firearm to the purchaser thereof until the provisions of this section have been satisfied, and, when delivered, the firearm shall be securely wrapped and shall be unloaded.







(b) Duty of seller.--No licensed importer, licensed manufacturer or licensed dealer shall sell or deliver any firearm to another person, other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer or licensed collector, until the conditions of subsection (a) have been satisfied and until he has:



(1) For purposes of a firearm as defined in section 6102 (relating to definitions), obtained a completed application/record of sale from the potential buyer or transferee to be filled out in triplicate, the original copy to be sent to the Pennsylvania State Police, postmarked via first class mail, within 14 days of the sale, one copy to be retained by the licensed importer, licensed manufacturer or licensed dealer for a period of 20 years and one copy to be provided to the purchaser or transferee. The form of this application/record of sale shall be no more than one page in length and shall be promulgated by the Pennsylvania State Police and provided by the licensed importer, licensed manufacturer or licensed dealer. The application/record of sale shall include the name, address, birthdate, gender, race, physical description and Social Security number of the purchaser or transferee, the date of the application and the caliber, length of barrel, make, model and manufacturer's number of the firearm to be purchased or transferred. The application/record of sale shall also contain the following question:







Are you the actual buyer of the firearm(s), as defined under 18 Pa.C.S. § 6102 (relating to definitions), listed on this application/record of sale? Warning: You are not the actual buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person, unless you are legitimately acquiring the firearm as a gift for any of the following individuals who are legally eligible to own a firearm:







(1) spouse;







(2) parent;







(3) child;







(4) grandparent; or







(5) grandchild.

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[4theConstitution]

I think I might know why now, ok to make this easier, If I own a semi- automatic AR-15, would I be allowed to open carry it.

[shooter357]

(03-23-2010 08:02 PM)jahwarrior72 Wrote:  no, you cannot carry an assault rifle. someone else will explain why.

Is that because an "assault" rifle is full auto?

[Xringshooter]

(03-23-2010 08:33 PM)4theConstitution Wrote:  I think I might know why now, ok to make this easier, If I own a semi- automatic AR-15, would I be allowed to open carry it.

Yes you can, you probably will be looked at, stared at, people will run away with horrified looks on their faces, mothers will grab up their babies and run, liberals will run screaming and dive for cover and call the police on their cell phones so expect that you'll have the police called about you (and subsequent questioning by said police). And the police would probably try to get you on any charges that they think would stick or that you would plead guilty.

[Xringshooter]

(03-23-2010 08:36 PM)shooter357 Wrote:  

(03-23-2010 08:02 PM)jahwarrior72 Wrote:  no, you cannot carry an assault rifle. someone else will explain why.

Is that because an "assault" rifle is full auto?

Basically, yes. Assault rifles are typically selectable guns (semi, burst; semi, full auto; semi, burst, full auto) and are highly regulated.

That said, if you own one and have all the correct paperwork to prove it is legal, you could carry it openly, BUT (see my other post).

[jahwarrior72]

ou can't carry an assault rifle, because there's no such thing as an assault rifle. a rifle is either semiautomatic, or select fire.

[4theConstitution]

The reason why I asked the question about open carrying a rifle is because 3 uneducated kids in my class who have no clue what their rights are, tried telling me that it is illegal to do so, I told them over and over again that yes in fact you are allowed to open carry a rifle in the state of Pennsylvania I even showed them the articles of the man open carrying an AR-15 in Arizona to prove that it is legal but they still don't believe me, these kids I was arguing with were 16, 17 years old and obviously brainwashed by the public school system.

[The Last Gunfighter]

Please you talk about these kids disagreeing with you I have the Principal of my kids school going ballistic because I'm wearing an empty gun holster. I leave my gun home when I pick them up from school but I leave the rig on ( cowboy holster) and she has threatened to have me banned from school grounds and all school functions because of empty holster. Her reasons are kids are asking questions about it and that I'm setting a bad example to them. Also she says that people have complained about it.

[shooter357]

(03-31-2010 05:39 AM)The Last Gunfighter Wrote:  Please you talk about these kids disagreeing with you I have the Principal of my kids school going ballistic because I'm wearing an empty gun holster. I leave my gun home when I pick them up from school but I leave the rig on ( cowboy holster) and she has threatened to have me banned from school grounds and all school functions because of empty holster. Her reasons are kids are asking questions about it and that I'm setting a bad example to them. Also she says that people have complained about it.

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It has always confused me when something stupid like this is said. What is wrong with asking a question. Questions are the begining of knowledge and this is the best way to expand their little minds and actually educate them. Is this not the reason they are there?

Quote:...she has threatened to have me banned from school grounds and all school functions because of empty holster.

I am not up to legal arguments yet, so I will ask: Could one be banned for not complying with directives from the school administration even though there is nothing illegal being commited?
Funny thing, around the school where my kids go they have all kinds of posters and buttons that say "No Place For Hate" and yet the attitude that you get from them in situations like these where you dare question their authority..

[Paradigm]

It's a public school. Holsters are not banned items.

Wear it to the next school board meeting and tell them that the administrator is harassing you.

[Lazydog]

(03-31-2010 08:35 AM)shooter357 Wrote:  

(03-31-2010 05:39 AM)The Last Gunfighter Wrote:  Please you talk about these kids disagreeing with you I have the Principal of my kids school going ballistic because I'm wearing an empty gun holster. I leave my gun home when I pick them up from school but I leave the rig on ( cowboy holster) and she has threatened to have me banned from school grounds and all school functions because of empty holster. Her reasons are kids are asking questions about it and that I'm setting a bad example to them. Also she says that people have complained about it.

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It has always confused me when something stupid like this is said. What is wrong with asking a question. Questions are the begining of knowledge and this is the best way to expand their little minds and actually educate them. Is this not the reason they are there?

No! They must only learn what the school teaches them. Outside influence will only confuse them about what they are being taught in school.

Guns are bad! Obama is good!

No need to work because the government will take care of you.

You know, the usual Left wing schools idealism.

[The Last Gunfighter]

Well because I'm ODD ( Oppositional Defiance Disorder ) I still wore it yesterday there didn't say anything to me. But I think it's because she's not used to anybody disobeying her.

[Lazydog]

Good for you.

[Mark2528]

ODD, or better known as Civil Disobedience; Good Job! If you wear your cell phone case empty, is that a problem too?

[donsmithnottmd]

(03-31-2010 05:39 AM)The Last Gunfighter Wrote:  Please you talk about these kids disagreeing with you I have the Principal of my kids school going ballistic because I'm wearing an empty gun holster. I leave my gun home when I pick them up from school but I leave the rig on ( cowboy holster) and she has threatened to have me banned from school grounds and all school functions because of empty holster. Her reasons are kids are asking questions about it and that I'm setting a bad example to them. Also she says that people have complained about it.

Aww yes the last vestige of the confused governemnt employee (which I am BTW).

As for the first part, to quote the eminent sage Earl Sinclair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Din...aracters): "School is not a place where you go to ask questions."

[GetTheDavis]

Im corious too. My bro has a Century AK47 pistol w/underfold. It was trans as a pistol.

[The Last Gunfighter]

Update: I am now banned from school grounds.

[jahwarrior72]

(05-03-2010 04:44 AM)The Last Gunfighter Wrote:  Update: I am now banned from school grounds.

i'm pretty sure a public school can't ban you from the grounds unless you did something illegal. if you have a child attending, you have the right to be there. lawyer up, cowboy.