Pa. Open Carry ~Responsible carry, in the open.

I have a 1911FS, i would like to get a militiary flap over holster for it,so would i OC'ing or CC'ing when wearing it while going about my activitys out side my home.

Well here is my .02. I believe it would be OC if someone could reasonable decipher it as being a firearm. That's the way I look at it.

Yeah...but an empty flap holster looks exactly the same as a filled flap holster.

Since you can't see the gun, I don't know how you could call it OC.

*my two cents*

that's actually a good question, and a hard one to answer. i think, to be safe, i'd consider it concealed. i had to think about it for a few minutes. my brother thinks it would be considered open, since with most of those holsters, you can still see part of the grip peeking out. we agree to disagree.

If i'm correct this says it would be open carry if in a visible holster or case designed for a firearm. This is from a different state, all I could find.

The following is a state law defining a concealed weapon:

62.1-04-01. Definition of concealed. A firearm or dangerous weapon is concealed if it is carried in such a manner as to not be discernible by the ordinary observation of a passerby. There is no requirement that there be absolute invisibility of the firearm or dangerous weapon, merely that it not be ordinarily discernible. A firearm or dangerous weapon is considered concealed if it is not secured, and is worn under clothing or carried in a bundle that is held or carried by the individual, or transported in a vehicle under the individual's control or direction and available to the individual, including beneath the seat or in a glove compartment. A firearm or dangerous weapon is not considered concealed if it is:

1. Carried in a belt holster which is wholly or substantially visible or carried in a case designed for carrying a firearm or dangerous weapon and which is wholly or substantially visible;
2. Locked in a closed trunk or luggage compartment of a motor vehicle;
3. Carried in the field while lawfully engaged in hunting, trapping, or target shooting, whether visible or not; or
4. Carried by any person permitted by law to possess a handgun unloaded and in a secure wrapper from the place of purchase to that person's home or place of business, or to a place of repair, or back from those locations.
5. A bow and arrow, an unloaded rifle or shotgun, or an unloaded weapon that will expel, or is readily capable of expelling, a projectile by the action of a spring, compressed air, or compressed gas including any such weapon commonly referred to as a BB gun, air rifle, or CO 2 gun, while carried in a motor vehicle.

Well, that would work for that state.

However, other states would call it CC. Take West Virginia, for example. For a gun to be OC, it has to be visible from three sides. If the flap covers all but the butt of the grip, it would only be visible from one side (the rear).

I guess my first question to the OP would be "Why use a flap holster?" I can understand if you are doing brush work and you don't want to snag or scratch your gun. Otherwise, for basic work around the home, get a good holster that enables you to retrieve it quickly if necessary.

Thanks for the replys,as you can see,thoughts differ on the subject here.
I'm covered either way,have my LTCF,i was just wondering about someone who does not have a LTCF,i'm sure a can of worms would be opened up in court.

I see there is a like thread going on over on the other forum with the same thoughts.

I may have to make a few calls to see what the "OFFICIALDOM" has to say about .

Just remember...don't ask a LEO for legal advice. Ask a lawyer, specifically someone who is well versed in PA's gun laws.