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Interior Announces Final Firearms Policy Update

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Assistant Secretary of the Interior for Fish and Wildlife and Parks Lyle Laverty today announced that the Department of the Interior has finalized updated regulations governing the possession of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. The final rule, which updates existing regulations, would allow an individual to carry a concealed weapon in national parks and wildlife refuges if, and only if, the individual is authorized to carry a concealed weapon under state law in the state in which the national park or refuge is located. The update has been submitted to the Federal Register for publication and is available to the public on http://www.doi.gov.

Existing regulations regarding the carrying of firearms remain otherwise unchanged, particularly limitations on poaching and target practice and prohibitions on carrying firearms in federal buildings.

“America was founded on the idea that the federal and state governments work together to serve the public and preserve our natural resources,” Laverty said. “The Department’s final regulation respects this tradition by allowing individuals to carry concealed firearms in federal park units and refuges to the extent that they could lawfully do so under state law. This is the same basic approach adopted by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and the United States Forest Service (USFS), both of which allow visitors to carry weapons consistent with applicable federal and state laws.”

On February 22, 2008, Interior Secretary Kempthorne responded to letters from 51 Senators, both Democrats and Republicans, as well as from the Chairman and Ranking Member of the House Natural Resources Committee, urging him to update existing regulations that prohibit the carrying of firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. In his response, the Secretary directed Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks Lyle Laverty “to develop and propose for public comment by April 30 Federal regulations that will update firearms policies on these lands to reflect existing Federal laws (such as those prohibiting weapons in Federal buildings) and the laws by which the host states govern transporting and carrying of firearms on their analogous public lands.”

Changes in the final regulations from those originally proposed in April were developed as the result of public comments. In particular, comments expressed concern about the feasibility of implementing regulations which directly linked the carrying of concealed firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges to the ability of an individual to carry a concealed firearm on analogous state lands. The final regulations remove that potential logistical hurdle.

The existing regulations, as currently in effect, were adopted in 1981 for national wildlife refuges and in 1983 for national parks. Since that time many states have enacted new firearms policies. Currently, 48 states have passed legislation allowing for the lawful possession of concealed weapons.

“The Department believes that in managing parks and refuges we should, as appropriate, make every effort to give the greatest respect to the democratic judgments of State legislatures with respect to concealed firearms,” said Laverty. “Federal agencies have a responsibility to recognize the expertise of the States in this area, and federal regulations should be developed and implemented in a manner that respects state prerogatives and authority.”
Good news! Another step on the stairway to freedom!
(12-06-2008 09:57 AM)shooter357 Wrote: [ -> ]Good news! Another step on the stairway to freedom!

A few dozen more like that and we might actually get back up to the lobby from the sub sub sub sub basement we're currently in. Grrrrr i hate the liberals.
One more step to being able to carry in a court house again. Yet another infringement upon our RIGHT has been removed.
(12-06-2008 03:13 PM)nepawolf Wrote: [ -> ]One more step to being able to carry in a court house again. Yet another infringement upon our RIGHT has been removed.

I am guessing you read that wrong. We still can't carry in court houses or any other federal buildings.....
No didn't read it wrong. I'm just saying that we're one step closer to being able to carry in courthouses and other places that have infringed upon our right to bear arms.
Did a little light reading tonight and finally managed to stop nodding off to finish the Federal Register Dated Dec. 10.

The changes go into effect on January 9, 2009. Open carry seems to remain illegal on the National Parks and National Wildlife Refuges and concealed carry will fall under the laws of the State that the lands are located in. However it does state:

Federal Register Wrote:Accordingly, nothing in this regulation
shall be construed to authorize
concealed carry of firearms in any
Federal facility or Federal court facility
as defined in 18 U.S.C. 930.


18 U.S.C.930 Wrote:
a) Except as provided in subsection (d), whoever knowingly possesses or causes to be present a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a Federal facility (other than a Federal court facility), or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.

-----(d) Subsection (a) shall not apply to -

--------(1) the lawful performance of official duties by an officer, agent,
------------or employee of the United States, a State, or a political
------------subdivision thereof, who is authorized by law to engage in or
------------supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or
------------prosecution of any violation of law;

--------(2) the possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon by a
------------Federal official or a member of the Armed Forces if such
------------possession is authorized by law; or

--------(3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a
------------Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.

-----(g) As used in this section:

--------(1) The term ''Federal facility'' means a building or part thereof
------------owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal
------------employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing
------------their official duties.

--------(2) The term ''dangerous weapon'' means a weapon, device,
------------instrument, material, or substance, animate or inanimate, that
------------is used for, or is readily capable of, causing death or serious
------------bodily injury, except that such term does not include a pocket
------------knife with a blade of less than 2 1/2 inches in length.


So when it comes down to Visitors Centers, Museums in Gettysburg (if run by Federal Govt.) it sounds like we are stuck with the same vagueness as for Post Offices
18 U.S.C.930 Wrote:
--------(3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a
------------Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.

There's that damn "other lawful purposes" phrasing again. That kinda pisses me off - is it or is it not an exception to people Lawfully Carrying for Self Defense? Don't_Know It's a "lawful purpose" for sure... but the wording to too vague.
Bang_Head
Just show them this carry permit, I'm sure they'll realize that you're right and let you on your merry way with no problems.Big_Grin_1
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